tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post3160672377404714969..comments2023-10-18T13:49:04.792+01:00Comments on Virtual Lancaster News Blog: Centros: new draft masterplan for city centreAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09111099866285188994noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-89907557601677575492012-12-28T00:34:04.502+00:002012-12-28T00:34:04.502+00:00Not sure what the obsession with Debenhams is. Joh...Not sure what the obsession with Debenhams is. John Lewis would be a better proposition - or can we not attract them? Having been to a number of Debenhams stores recently, many appear shabby and dated, plus the clothing choice is bland. Lancaster needs to compete on quality and this development needs to be exactly that: polished, well fitting and a game changer. More retail space is needed because the shops that do want to come in find existing units not fit for purpose.<br /><br />The restaurant quarter is a great idea but again the offering needs to be high quality.<br /><br />To add to this, the recently closed market building was never suitable for use as a market. Therefore it should house a new large anchor store.<br /><br />I'm in support but it needs to be done right. I spent 35 minutes last week out of an 1 hour's shopping trip and bailed out early because the selection is currently so poor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-79939052457787802862012-12-09T11:31:56.505+00:002012-12-09T11:31:56.505+00:00sorry for coming into this so late in the day, but...sorry for coming into this so late in the day, but John Freeman has a good point:<br /><br />"... is adding more shops when so many are closed the correct strategy? ..."<br /><br />Before the public meeting earlier this year, I had a walk around Lancaster and counted 44 empty retail units within the one way system... since then, the market has closed and the figure is now probably closer to 50 empty shop units. <br /><br />Of course these aren't huge spaces suitable for the likes Debenhams and Harrods ;), but neither are the vast majority of proposed units on the Canal Corridor.<br /><br />Personally i think the reason retailers aren't coming to Lancaster is the cost of rent and rates... we have plenty of available space.Hill Farm Barnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08249013934350891783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-49402851431847985722012-07-07T16:33:02.609+01:002012-07-07T16:33:02.609+01:00The Council has done market research - and the res...The Council has done market research - and the response to these proposals has been mixed, and not just from the Green Party but business, too. Yes, people would like to see more open shops, but the concerns remain - is adding more shops when so many are closed the correct strategy? If you're going to 'flatten buildings', couldn't the land be used for other things that would create jobs - small industrial units, affordable housing etc.?John Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09275476513933849893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-5467561093686963632012-07-06T16:06:24.781+01:002012-07-06T16:06:24.781+01:00Why can't the council get around town and do s...Why can't the council get around town and do some market research to see if people do want this. As only the people with strong objections bother to protest really. Everyone I know just wants all the dead buildings flattening and any sort of shopping development to be built as Lancaster is stuck in about 1970 at the moment! Plus the jobs would come in handy. I never shop in Lancaster because its crap and have to go to the Trafford Centre instead. Please can the green party types blocking this go back to drinking their parsnip wine and let the 90% of the town who want this get some better shops and jobs!!!!Hala Ladnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-15686129072821988192012-06-28T23:26:53.960+01:002012-06-28T23:26:53.960+01:00It's fairly typical Centros tactics. Fake tele...It's fairly typical Centros tactics. Fake telephone polls, fake comments. Like a debenhams will come and suddenly we'll be Manchester? What are you smoking? As for Kendal, it's main attraction is the finest collection of charity shops in the North West and a shopping centre with a miniscule indoor market that makes Lancaster's look like Picadilly Circus. <br /><br />When did you last go into debenhams and buy something decent that you'd wear twice? In the 1970s?<br /><br />How many slacks or blazers or same old boring viscose frocks with frilly necks and brass bits or please-please-fancy-me-if-I-just- cripple-myself shoes can any aspiring loser need? <br /><br />There must be an easier way to shoehorn the ambitious overweight into structured clothes and kitten heels than messing up a whole town with a cowboy development. It's not like it's ever going to fix their depression wagon. Get real. We need a bit of new life, something modern and 21st century to get us noticed, not the same old tacky grunge that's going out of business everywhere. <br /><br />Environmentally friendly? There is no aspect of this scheme that recognises or contributes to this environment. There are no viability studies, no models to take into account fluctuations in interest rates or rents over the next 250 years, or changes in fuel costs, nothing but flim-flam. A cheap prefab scheme that has been parachuted into weak and dodgy administrations for the last 30 years or more at massive cost to local trade, character and initiative. <br /><br />How can we make a fresh start with all these old boys rubbing each other's backs and fixing up deals on the quiet and faking and fiddling everything? Bunch of parasites the lot of them. They treat us like we're a herd of stupid sheep to be fleeced. The contempt and manipulation is disgraceful. If people want to support a scheme, they should write to the planning department with their proper names and addresses and let their letters be seen along with the rest of the planning documents - just as the objectors do, and not pretend to be what they clearly aren't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-46145875131146152732012-06-28T11:41:55.808+01:002012-06-28T11:41:55.808+01:00I'm a bit puzzled by the comment stating Lanca...I'm a bit puzzled by the comment stating Lancaster has an "extremely poor retail offering" and talks about "the waste land areas right in the city centre".<br /><br />Are these comments really being written by someone living in Lancaster?<br /><br />St. Nicholas Arcades has been revamped recently and now has a strong anchor store in the new Next. The owners are clearly determined to make more of their shopping centre, as are the owners of Marketgate, despite the unfavourable economic conditions. <br /><br />Sainsbury's has investeed heavily in upgrading its store on Cable Street.<br /><br />In addition, the City Council is rolling out its 'Square Routes' project in association with local business which has already seen improvements to the city centre, and we've been told the County Council will at some point upgrade all the precinct's paving as part of this, hopefully by year end, which is currently a mess. Now the electricty companies etc appear to have finished their works in the centre I'm sure it must be on the agenda to come through on this promise.<br /><br />Yes, there are empty retail stores in Penny Street, New Street and elsewhere - but this is a problem in many other towns and cities, a combination of intransigent landlords who refuse to reduce rents or, for the most part, invest in the improvement of their properties.<br /><br />There's also the issue of, we are often told by local business, high business rates.<br /><br />And given that there ARE so many empty shops, how is effectively doubling the number of retail units going to help? Will the rates and rents in the new Centros development be less than those in the city centre? If so, surely city centre businesses would be well within their rights to complain about such differences in costs and challenge the Council on any disparity?<br /><br />How would such a huge retail development impact on Morecambe? Would it damage business there?<br /><br />As far as I can tell, one reason for new build and new retail proposed is on the grounds that new build will be planned to make it easier for large lorries to deliver to these new shops. Given Lancaster's long-standing traffic issues, let's hope Centros and the Council have some solution to this. <br /><br />You only have to see the problems being caused by lorries delivering to the new Tesco on King Street to realize more big lorries in the one way system surely isn't going to improve or town.John Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09275476513933849893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-74478528533359448712012-06-28T11:11:53.819+01:002012-06-28T11:11:53.819+01:00Dear Mr Fishwick - the St Leonard’s Gate area woul...Dear Mr Fishwick - the St Leonard’s Gate area would be considerably improved if property owners Mitchells perhaps weren't apparently leaving a lot of their buildings, like the old Tramway pub, to rot. They have already been chastised by the Council for the state of the building.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-75582723438509715192012-06-28T11:08:26.213+01:002012-06-28T11:08:26.213+01:00Strange how eerily similar two of the messages in ...Strange how eerily similar two of the messages in support of the Centros scheme area, isn't it. A hive mind at work, perhaps? And another supporter apparently works in PR ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-83524531353585376272012-06-28T10:35:05.256+01:002012-06-28T10:35:05.256+01:00I want to express my support for the Canal Corrido...I want to express my support for the Canal Corridor north retail development scheme. I believe it is time for Lancaster to move forward and make the most of what it has to offer. Lancaster is an attractive and historic city, but this area of the city seriously needs some investment and creative thinking. As a destination, Lancaster needs to improve its retail and leisure amenities in order to compete with other cities in the North West and this is would be plan would be a great way to kick start this. <br /><br />I hope the right decisions are taken by you the Council for the benefit of the majority.Cathy Skidmorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-62660518903505175942012-06-26T10:13:43.826+01:002012-06-26T10:13:43.826+01:00In, response to 'Anonymous' we would like ...In, response to 'Anonymous' we would like to point out that the text he/she writes appears to be one of those model messages that a Centros supporter has cut and pasted onto a public blog - it is vaguely and tediously familiar. Perhaps it came via Centros itself or some other entity with a vested interest in the site. Certainly, the 'arguments' that the post contains are those advanced by Centros and which are often parroted by supporters of the scheme. There is nothing wrong with this kind of campaigning of course - so long as the public can see who is behind it and we are sure that 'Anonymous' would agree - or perhaps not. Its Our City itself has written model letters to city councillors and have invited our subscribers to send them - some will send them and some will write their own letters. We have done this in an open and public way. We would like to point out that the city council has not yet agreed to go forward with Centros at all and consequently there is no planning application on the table from Centros to support or oppose. Unless Anonymous is suggesting that Centros should just be allowed to build whatever they like without any scrutiny at all. Its Our City's view is that there should be a competition to find the most suitable development for this site with all the people of Lancaster being given a proper say in the final decision. Clearly, Anonymous takes a different view for reasons best known to the author of the post. In terms of the dereliction of some of the buildings on the site, the question of who has allowed these buildings to become dilapidated raises itself. Don't you think so Anonymous? Perhaps you will address that matter in your next post or when you send your text in the form of a letter to the Lancaster Guardian. We shall see.<br />Billy Pye – It’s Our CityBilly Pyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-38971099340231549792012-06-25T15:38:47.008+01:002012-06-25T15:38:47.008+01:00I must say the St Leonard’s Gate area and Lancaste...I must say the St Leonard’s Gate area and Lancaster would be improved hugely by this scheme. The City needs this type of investment and like all cities it must continue to develop if it is to move on. Such a large area of derelict buildings and unused land is a shameful waste and a poor reflection on the City. This looks to be a sympathetic scheme with a good blend of old and new and it would be great for the City to develop the canal and a restaurant quarter, quite apart from the need for higher quality retail outlets. Why can’t we look forward to a City that can bring in the quality of lifestyle and the revenues of a Manchester, or even a Kendal? I used to live in Newcastle and watched the development of its Quayside from a derelict wasteland to a vibrant social centre with a great range of restaurants, cafes and retail outlets. It enhanced the City enormously and it is nice to see somebody with the same sort of vision for Lancaster.Mick Fishwicknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-22439002201572408702012-06-21T16:14:10.484+01:002012-06-21T16:14:10.484+01:00I would love to be able to shop in Lancaster. I f...I would love to be able to shop in Lancaster. I feel there are too many derelict buildings as no-one is drawn to come into Lancaster. Suitable parking would ensure a busy and bustling centre.<br /><br />I've been to many towns and cities of a similar size such as Bristol and York, as well as the bigger cities around the country and I see businesses attracted to set up premises. The draw of retail businesses would attract large enterprises looking for regional offices at low rents. we are ideally placed for the M6 and west coast main line with Liverpool and Manchester airports only an hour away and Glasgow only a 2 and a half hour drive. We should have lower rents and business strategies to attract all sizes and shapes of business. Lancaster has changed many times over the centuries...lets see some positive change. Those that complain about destroying derelict buildings have had ample opportunity to club together to buy and renovate these, yet this has not happened. It is time for positive change!Tumphynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-57661258104023148322012-06-21T16:05:29.569+01:002012-06-21T16:05:29.569+01:00I am writing to express my feelings and concerns r...I am writing to express my feelings and concerns regarding the lack of retail infrastructure within our city and the number of derelict and disused buildings and land around the old Mitchell’s Brewery buildings. I like many have to travel to many miles to Preston and Manchester to satisfy my shopping requirements. This is not environmentally friendly and much needed revenue and jobs are benefited from elsewhere. <br />We are desperately in need of better facilities to be able to compete with our respective neighbours in the North West. As a City we aspire to be like York as a historic place to visit. At present we are a million miles away due to our extremely poor retail offering and the waste land areas right in the city centre. We need to attract tourist and shoppers and regenerate and restore Lancaster to its former glory.<br />I want to express my full support to the Canal Corridor North retail development scheme proposed by Centros.<br />I hope the right decisions are taken by you the Council for the benefit of the majority.LancastrianWhoWantstoShopnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-67074979883144399242012-06-21T12:57:37.118+01:002012-06-21T12:57:37.118+01:00I am writing to express my feelings and concerns r...I am writing to express my feelings and concerns regarding the lack of retail infrastructure within our city and the number of derelict and disused buildings and land around the old Mitchell’s Brewery buildings. I like many have to travel to many miles to Preston and Manchester to satisfy my shopping requirements. This is not environmentally friendly and much needed revenue and jobs are benefited from elsewhere. <br />We are desperately in need of better facilities to be able to compete with our respective neighbours in the North West. As a City we aspire to be like York as a historic place to visit. At present we are a million miles away due to our extremely poor retail offering and the waste land areas right in the city centre. We need to attract tourist and shoppers and regenerate and restore Lancaster to its former glory.<br />I want to express my full support to the Canal Corridor North retail development scheme proposed by Centros.<br />I hope the right decisions are taken by you the Council for the benefit of the majority.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79367181454779028.post-48610958642179868922012-03-27T18:02:33.246+01:002012-03-27T18:02:33.246+01:00Don't make this proposed development something...Don't make this proposed development something which only concerns 'it's our city' and the LCC/Centros. This is a huge chunk of Lancaster and concerns us all. <br /><br />It's not a question of who's side are you on. It's a case of what do you think should be done?It's Our Car Parkhttp://its-our-car-park.blogspot.co.uk/noreply@blogger.com